[Male] John, you've been on the run for five days now.

[John] Right.

[Male] What's going on?

Where is this going?

[John] I have no idea where it's going, Josh.

I do know that the Prime Minister and the

Prime Minister's statement yesterday

could be equally reversed.

If I think that he himself is bonkers,

that he can throw away the constitution of the country

and become dictator without the world catching on.

That was John McAfee at 4:49 PM Belize time,

Thursday, November 15th.

For the past six months, I have been interviewing him,

and now Wired is publishing my exclusive 13 chapter

eBook investigation into his life.

What follows here is a compilation

of my most recent conversations with him.

[John] The job of the gang suppression

is to suppress gangs.

Well, yet they showed up in my yard.

[Josh] Right, well, I mean, is the other example

of the businessman in Belmapan whose house

was surrounded and they opened fire.

[John] So all I expect is that people do enough

research to understand those points, so when I say,

Well, given what I see, I think there's a high chance

that something, and by the way, I was beaten

nearly to death.

I went to the hospital in Fiwell when they-

[Josh] They broke his jaw.

[John] When they did.

Among other things, right?

[Josh] Yeah.

[John] I mean, that's a pretty severe blow,

to break a man's jaw.

[Josh] Of course.

[John] So no, I don't intend to put myself through that.

This is a fact.

[Josh] Right.

[John] And I did no less than him.

He didn't speak out much against the government.

He didn't do much.

Someone didn't like him and turned in an anonymous tip,

and then the next thing you know,

he's in the hospital and all this chitchat thing.

This is where we live.

This is this country.

If people can understand that, then I will talk to them.

If they think I'm living in America

and acting the way I'm acting, then I'm a madman.

I mean, everybody's reporting that McAfee says

his friends have been arrested.

Well, Jesus Christ, it's an easy thing for people to check.

(laughs) I mean.

Yeah, they intend to charge everybody, cash.

In fact, they did let my security guard's wife go.

[Josh] Right.

[John] You heard that, right?

[Josh] Yeah, I heard that.

In fact, I told you, with the baby,

that she had the one-year-old.

[John] Right.

And they let the taxi driver go, finally.

[Josh] Oh, okay.

[John] I mean, what can you charge the fucking

taxi driver for? (laughs)

I mean, think about it.

But they're searching for things to charge him,

so they're stretching the gun laws, okay?

They're just inventing shit to charge people with

under the gun laws.

As to my situation, anybody who will bother

to google Belize, the changes to the constitution,

the takeover of the Detail telephones company

and the subsequent refusal to return it

to its rightful owners by sending in the army.

And anyone who's willing to google the abuses of

the gang suppression units here in Belize

will have no problem understanding my reluctance

to turn myself in.

And I need to get off the phones now, sir.

[Josh] Okay, John.

[John] Thank you.

[Josh] Talk to you later.