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Both of you are embarked on your next careers,

helping to change the world.

I'm curious what the process is when you decide

what to focus on. There's so many things there.

Well, when I left the White House, I decided to focus

on things that I had cared about when I was there

where I could still make a difference.

One is Health Access Initiative, thanks largely to funding

from the Gates Foundation, where we've been able

to drive down the price of AIDS and Malaria drugs.

Melinda and I always knew we'd have the responsibility

and enjoyment of giving the resources away,

so it was an exploration process

and really traveling throughout the world.

When you see the poorest and you see

what we take for granted in terms of our children surviving,

our children's health, that became the thing to go after.

Speaking of that, I know you have traveled together there,

so I'm curious of a couple things.

One is because both of you are so famous,

how do you get past the bubble

to really connect with people there?

We go to a lot of places where people have no televisions,

so we're not all that famous.

Yeah (laughing).

You just have to go to these places and ask questions.

When Bill and I went, Melinda was with us,

and she asked better questions than we did on some of these

HIV/AIDS Prevention efforts. I was very impressed.

Well there was Microbicide, which is a thing

a woman can use to protect herself from getting HIV,

and it was a trial. And understanding was it something

that the woman, was the experience okay for her?

What about her partner? Neither Bill or I were willing

to ask that in a very direct way,

We were sort of hinting at it. But Melinda was able

to ask very directly, both the male and female.

And it was good, it's important feedback.

One of the things that I respected

about what Bill and Melinda were doing

is they were willing to work in Lesotho.

Lesotho had, when we were there, the third or fourth highest

AIDS infection rate in the world.

But it had the only government at the time

that was willing to say, Look, we're gonna test everybody

12 years old or over, unless they opt out.

And we had gone out, our Health Access Group,

and found people who were HIV Positive,

who were willing to go up into these villages,

a third of the people live in the mountains so high

that you can't get there except on pack animals or foot.

All they knew was we were showing up trying to help them.

I was just there in Malawi and one of our farm projects,

and the woman that we were helping there

was farming an acre with a hoe,

and she had learned new planting techniques.

She looked at me and she said, You think you can do this?

(laughing)

She said, Well do it, then.

And I got a hoe, and we were planting together.

She said, How did you learn to do this?

And I explained to her when I was six,

I lived on a little farm like this,

and that's much more important that we can help them

live their lives, than who we used to be.

Do you agree with that?

Sure.

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